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Mon0's avatar

Yes, Good news! I believe the counterexamples you mention can be defused by considering the second order effect of actions in a real world setting.

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Bob Jacobs's avatar

> The good old organ transplant case gives me a similarly extreme reaction; it just can’t be right to steal those organs!

These types of arguments (surgeon, sheriff...) were never convincing to me, since we need social trust for a society to function. The public's fear of being kidnapped if you get too close to a hospital would have disastrous consequences, far worse than whatever we gain from kidnapping people.

Instead, I have found that the most convincing arguments are the ones that tackle the "maximization" or "expected", parts of maximizing expected utility. For example: the 'repugnant conclusion', 'pascal's mugging', or my very own 'wagering calamity': https://bobjacobs.substack.com/p/the-wagering-calamity-objection-to

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