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I have long considered it a problem for deontology that it's a selfish theory - deontologists prioritize the purity of their own actions over other people's lives, and even over the purity of others' actions (e.g. a deontologist won't kill one innocent person to prevent five innocent people from being murdered, so deontology can't be justified simply by saying that killing is worse than letting die). Your arguments here have put that into more formal terms. If the deontologist cares about everyone's duties, the theory is self-defeating. But if they only care about their own duties, the theory is inherently selfish.

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It seems the Postmodernists might have the best untapped fertile ground for evaluating the Prisoner Dilemma. One such approach would be to think about it like this:

1. The dominant social In-Group, represented by the Police, subscribes to a Moral Theory that is defined by the comparative moral value of Selfishness vs Cooperation

2. Our Prisoners are evidently in jail because their actions indicate they subscribe to an Out-Group Moral Theory (defined by a certain comparison of Selfishness vs Cooperation) that deviates from the In-Group's

3. The Police (or more broadly, the "In-Group Justice System") consider it their job to eliminate deviant Moral Theories through rewards and punishments ("re-education")

4. It is very plausible that, over the years, the Police have experimented with different Dilemmas and have observed the extent to which the responses of the various prisoners indicate improved conformity to the In-Group Moral Theory

5. Therefore, our Prisoner's can probably assume that the particular Dilemma they face is the product of an ongoing evolutionary trial-and-error process that that seeks to maximize conformity to In-Group Morality based upon empirical expectations of prisoner responses

6. In certain well-defined game theoretic models of this, we might make additional simplifying assumptions (that In-Group Morality and Out-Group Morality are well-defined, that the In-Group rigidly maintains its Morality, that the Out-Group adapts its Morality in response to In-Group actions based on In-Group values, that adaptive responses can be modeled, etc)

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