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Nathan Ormond's avatar

Enjoying reading this, only time to skim. On point II Lance and I have talked about this before and we both believe that the problem with Frege Geach embeddings is the theory of language and truth that it depends on. Your logical space fixes in place views of language and truth in a way we would dent. The first claim is that the use of "true " is supposed to apply to propositions which are truth apt sentences, the second claim is that of compositional semantics where the constituent parts of propositions have little atomic meanings that can be recombined in certain sentence structures, the third is that the meaning of a word is an internal, phenomenally private representation which "lines up" when a word is correctly used and doesn't when it doesn't -- this is in opposition to both Lance and my own views of meaning as use.

So, not that either of us do exactly believe this, but this makes it possible that moral utterances are (say) expressions of Boo/Hurrah, and that we go on to say our moral assertions are true ( which we would explain as being caused by our Boo/Hurrah emotion ). This means that when placed in grammarical constructs that have inferential form we can apply a logical calculus and there's no problem. The problem is introduced by the view of language/semantics.

If this hasnt helped Im happy to type a longer reply off my phone when I have time. Fwiw am also not an emotivist.

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> I also suspect he might object that there isn’t any well-defined class of “moral judgements,” as it’s just a subset of ordinary discourse, with no clear boundary.

This seems like more of an argument against moral anti-realism than a counter to arguments against it. If there's no clear boundary between moral discourse and non-moral discourse, how can one say that all moral discourse in not stance-independently true, unless one also says the same about non-moral discourse, or at least a large segment of it?

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