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Noah Birnbaum's avatar

I like your framing of the setup of the darwinian dilemma, but I don’t think your objection holds much weight...

First of all, epistemic normatively (the idea that we stance independently must believe certain things about the truth) isn’t really an idea that many people take seriously and is therefore worth dropping. We don’t need to think that one needs to believe true things stance independently for one to be motivated to deny falsehoods. (Note: this is a form of a companions in guilt argument, but I think it at least works better with respect to deliberative indespensibility -- see enoch: though, I forget where)

One way to think this even more is if you are a type of pragmatist where having true beliefs is only important as it relates to getting more of the stuff you like (preferences, hedonic states, whatever).

Secondly, with respect to truth in general (though not epistemic normativity, this seems like an important clarification), it does seem like evolution would select for us believing (some type of) true things as this is relevant for survival (therefore, we would likely have access to at least some kinds of facts about the truth). This would explain, however, why we know about apples (as a higher level object that we can interact with, for instance, and not particles (which, according to many, are more true in some sense). This would not, for instance, apply to the moral facts (only, imo, under non tautological definitions)

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Quiop's avatar

>"naturalist realists don’t escape the problem"

Your argument for this point is rather terse, and it's not clear to me exactly how it is supposed to work. In particular, it's not clear what sort of modal machinery you're employing.

Following standard assumptions regarding metaphysical modality, P=N entails [](P=N), so the claim that our knowledge of P=N is insensitive (i.e. "if P had been identical to M rather than N, this would have made no causal difference to our beliefs about P") seems to involve a counterpossible conditional, and it's not obvious why a sensitivity requirement for moral knowledge would require such knowledge to be robust to counterpossible scenarios. (By analogy: we can have knowledge of mathematics, even if we would have come to the same mathematical beliefs in an [impossible] world where 2+2=5.)

Alternatively, and perhaps more clearly: What prevents your argument in this paragraph from being a general argument for the insensitivity of all of our natural knowledge?

(Williamson, IIRC, dislikes the sensitivity criterion for precisely this reason: he thinks it leads too easily to a very broad skepticism.)

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